Regarding the multiple reports

#49
by DevonDekhran - opened

While it's funny that half the reports and complaints are coming from accounts with Chinese/Asian names, thus not really helping with the whole censorship claim, not releasing any useful information about what was "uncensored" besides 4-5 images on your blog post doesn't really help your image either.

Sure, it's nice to see a Chinese model not forcing itself into silence about Chinese historical facts, but I'd find much better to read the actual docs on what has been changed, how you worked on it, etc. If not, you're just giving a model on the "trust me bro, we didn't just bias it the other way" basis.

From your post, THIS is what would be great to read about in full:
1. We employed human experts to identify approximately 300 topics known to be censored by the CCP.
2. Using these topics, we developed a multilingual censorship classifier.

How did the model lie about China before?

How did the model lie about China before?

I said censor not lie. And when asked about the tank square, the model censors itself in thought and reply by stating China is only doing the best for its citizens. Was laughable.

Sure, it's nice to see a Chinese model not lying about China

This reads like you implied that the model lied.

Sure, it's nice to see a Chinese model not lying about China

This reads like you implied that the model lied.

There ya go

Much better wording. Thank you.

While it's funny that half the reports and complaints are coming from accounts with Chinese/Asian names, thus not really helping with the whole censorship claim, not releasing any useful information about what was "uncensored" besides 4-5 images on your blog post doesn't really help your image either.

Sure, it's nice to see a Chinese model not forcing itself into silence about Chinese historical facts, but I'd find much better to read the actual docs on what has been changed, how you worked on it, etc. If not, you're just giving a model on the "trust me bro, we didn't just bias it the other way" basis.

From your post, THIS is what would be great to read about in full:
1. We employed human experts to identify approximately 300 topics known to be censored by the CCP.
2. Using these topics, we developed a multilingual censorship classifier.

+1!
You can't release a bomb like this without publishing the exact method you used.
Plus, I don't see any point in favor of developing an opaque uncensoring method. Because this serves very badly the exact purpose of your work!
In the current state, without any additional information, it practically feels like a provocation and nothing else.
IDK there is really a cognitive dissonance in my head here. It is just doesn't make sense, brain can't compute.
wtf???

doesn't make sense, brain can't compute.
wtf???

From what I've read, the head of perplexity might be doing this to "impress" the government because they aren't actually a legal immigrant in the US/don'thave a green card lmao

I can only wonder if this story will get any worse from here on out

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doesn't make sense, brain can't compute.
wtf???

From what I've read, the head of perplexity might be doing this to "impress" the government because they aren't actually a legal immigrant in the US/don'thave a green card lmao

I can only wonder if this story will get any worse from here on out

whatt??
Can you find back the source you read from? I'm really curious about this whole situation.

Seducing a fucker is a useless move as the fucker would have fucked you anyway.
If ever they sold their soul and gave their ass that quickly, they deserve zero glory. Just a portray on the wall of shame.
Can't believe to release such an artifact without developing anything on their method. You just can't morally.
Plus that silence... What are you seeking guys? The pitfall?
I think your time window to react is quickly shrinking and you should BE REACTIVE on this.
But instead, some of your team are just ridiculing the only few posts trying to genuinely understand some technical details. That's condescendant and have no place here on huggingface which is a formidable place to learn.
Such toxic behavior is intolerable because I don't wanna hug. The criteria should be this simple lol

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