This is not "uncensored". This is just anti-china.

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by Smorty100 - opened

Being anti-china is a fair opinion to have. There are plenty reasons to think that way, I do too.

Using LLMs for knowledge retrieval is generally a bad idea. And ESPECIALLY, when then media goes CRAZY about some chinese model being "censored", people will know not to use this model for knowledge retrieval about china.

I don't think we needed this. The compute to train this model could have been used in better ways.

It is not anti-china or anti-chinese, though.
It's anti-CCP - which is a very valid stand to take.

China is a beautiful country with great people, there is nothing in this model that denies this.

The CCP, on the other hand...

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It is not anti-china or anti-chinese, though.
It's anti-CCP - which is a very valid stand to take.

China is a beautiful country with great people, there is nothing in this model that denies this.

The CCP, on the other hand...

I think you Westerners are naively adorable to the point of stupidity on this matter!

You always separate government and the people. Do you really think a country of 1.4 billion people could have a political ecosystem detached from its citizens?

Imagine a government constantly saying: "Oh no, we’re just elected officials! We’re separate from the people—don’t lump us together!" Let me tell you, this is a classic scam to shift blame. They casually dump the responsibility for policies that cause massive losses and affect everyone’s livelihoods onto "democracy."

You can criticize your government, yet you never think to hold the source of power accountable through systemic control. You just shrug and say, "Well, we’ll vote harder next time," then hand everything over to capitalists: "Go ahead, give us two political clowns to choose from. We’ll pick whoever performs better!"

Every time I see your country’s decades-long, multibillion-dollar failed projects, where those in power whisper behind closed doors and capitalists shrug without consequences—no one held accountable—I realize your system is utterly rotten.

Your governments keep cycling into power to loot public funds because you’re happy playing the fool! Politicians just dangle some identity politics, and you cheer: "Oh, government is government, people are people!"

Do you know why Chinese people are so angry? Does it mean we all support our government? No. It’s because many of you aren’t even attacking our government—you’re attacking our nation itself. We recognize where our government aligns with our interests, and "coincidentally," your models’ answers in these areas deeply offend us. Dare you show your "unbiased" dataset to Chinese people? Pathetic.
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↑↑↑look at this funny WuMao
As a Chinese, we can only tolerate dictators like Xi Jinping constantly destroying the economy, and be represented by saying "We recognize where our government aligns with our interests"🙄🙄🙄
This is why I will support perplexity against the CCP's audit. Because in China, we have no right to say no.
We can only watch the CCP waste $1.43 trillion of taxpayers' money every year to build all kinds of useless infrastructure, while most Chinese people only receive less than $30 in pensions each month.

Every time I see your country’s decades-long, multibillion-dollar failed projects, where those in power whisper behind closed doors and capitalists shrug without consequences—no one held accountable—I realize your system is utterly rotten.

How are you better? Your version of capitalism is even more perverted than in the rest of the world, and stop scolding capitalism when you yourself live by its laws and everything suits you.

That China und the CCP are identical is pushed mostly by the CCP itself.

Do you know why Chinese people are so angry?

Because people see that their children are working on the same factory line they have been on for decades. Even though the made sure that their kids get a college degree so they'll have it "better then them" - but there's no jobs?
Because of a housing bubble that they spent their money on for ghost towns that never got finished, and now they have nothing (that is, if the projects even got started before all the money disappeared)
Because of corruption and nepotism everywhere, where high ranking officials funnel billions and billions of RMB out of the PRC, to malaysia and whatever other country likes to "take care" of their money?
Because the country is effectively broke, having even wasted all the financial reserves they got when taking over hong kong?

Or is it because all of the above and the fact that if they would voice their critisism in public they would be labelled as traitors and unpatriotic, and have the police visit them?

You tell me.

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Every time I see your country’s decades-long, multibillion-dollar failed projects, where those in power whisper behind closed doors and capitalists shrug without consequences—no one held accountable—I realize your system is utterly rotten.

How are you better? Your version of capitalism is even more perverted than in the rest of the world, and stop scolding capitalism when you yourself live by its laws and everything suits you.

This is why we have DeepSeek, while you’re burying your heads in the sand, whining, “Do you have anything better?” — because the public has proven you’re all too happy to gobble up the slop your capitalists shovel at you.

“Every anti-China rant from the ppl only makes you proudly puff out your chests.” How pathetic is that?

↑↑↑look at this funny WuMao
As a Chinese, we can only tolerate dictators like Xi Jinping constantly destroying the economy, and be represented by saying "We recognize where our government aligns with our interests"🙄🙄🙄
This is why I will support perplexity against the CCP's audit. Because in China, we have no right to say no.
We can only watch the CCP waste $1.43 trillion of taxpayers' money every year to build all kinds of useless infrastructure, while most Chinese people only receive less than $30 in pensions each month.

你算个几把中国人。中国人会在台湾问题和新疆人问题上含糊其辞?“哦,别人是反我们政府,又不是反华。”

你是真逆天,跪舔洋大人去吧!看你头上的辫子都没去掉还活在洋大人是天的大清国呢。

You call yourself Chinese? Since when do real Chinese equivocate on Taiwan or Xinjiang? ‘Oh, they’re just criticizing our government, not China!’ — is that the cowardly excuse you’re hiding behind? You really believe those garbage? Pathetic.

That China und the CCP are identical is pushed mostly by the CCP itself.

Do you know why Chinese people are so angry?

Because people see that their children are working on the same factory line they have been on for decades. Even though the made sure that their kids get a college degree so they'll have it "better then them" - but there's no jobs?
Because of a housing bubble that they spent their money on for ghost towns that never got finished, and now they have nothing (that is, if the projects even got started before all the money disappeared)
Because of corruption and nepotism everywhere, where high ranking officials funnel billions and billions of RMB out of the PRC, to malaysia and whatever other country likes to "take care" of their money?
Because the country is effectively broke, having even wasted all the financial reserves they got when taking over hong kong?

Or is it because all of the above and the fact that if they would voice their critisism in public they would be labelled as traitors and unpatriotic, and have the police visit them?

You tell me.

LOL. PLZ just release your so-called 'unbiased' dataset! Let the Chinese people judge your 'fairness and justice' for themselves!

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↑↑↑look at this funny WuMao
As a Chinese, we can only tolerate dictators like Xi Jinping constantly destroying the economy, and be represented by saying "We recognize where our government aligns with our interests"🙄🙄🙄
This is why I will support perplexity against the CCP's audit. Because in China, we have no right to say no.
We can only watch the CCP waste $1.43 trillion of taxpayers' money every year to build all kinds of useless infrastructure, while most Chinese people only receive less than $30 in pensions each month.

你算个几把中国人。中国人会在台湾问题和新疆人问题上含糊其辞?“哦,别人是反我们政府,又不是反华。”

你是真逆天,跪舔洋大人去吧!看你头上的辫子都没去掉还活在洋大人是天的大清国呢。

You call yourself Chinese? Since when do real Chinese equivocate on Taiwan or Xinjiang? ‘Oh, they’re just criticizing our government, not China!’ — is that the cowardly excuse you’re hiding behind? You really believe those garbage? Pathetic.

幽默Chinazi,真以为人人都支持你共去武力侵略台湾?真以为人人都支持你共的解放军去武力镇压西藏和东突厥斯坦的?

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